there's not going to be a romney fed confrontation. nada. not going to happen. don't even think about it. anyway, the romney people would not be unhappy with a zero interest rate for their first year, right, so they could help get the economy jump started maybe with some better tax and regulation policy. anyway, they couldn't move bernanke because he's stubborn. and, anyway, the federal reserve board is stacked with easy money obama appointees. so it would be like knocking up against -- it's not romney's style. he's just not going to do that. on the other hand, i think warsh is right. the fed is still worried about the economy. look at the numbers this morning on capital goods and durable goods. take out defense and take out aircraft. these were lousy numbers. businesses not investing. there's no capital goods activity. >> we had a bunch of ceos ring the bell today from fix the debt. >> yes. >> proposing what judd gregg today called a simpson/bowles plus type template. does that impress you? is that going to get us anywhere? >> depends what it is. i'm a tax refo